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	<title>Comments on: I feel like TiVo stole $150 from me</title>
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		<title>By: Ben Drawbaugh</title>
		<link>http://bjdraw.com/2008/04/16/i-feel-like-tivo-stole-150-from-me/comment-page-1/#comment-609</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Drawbaugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 02:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Davis,
It was due to a multi-service discount, not for multi-room viewing. I paid like $600 for the Series3, so I don&#039;t feel like it was subsidized, but I was only paying $7/mo instead of $20 because I already had another TiVo with service. 
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So if you add the $7/mo plus the $150, it ended up costing me $17/mo instead of $20. So my bitching and moaning aside I still paid less than I would&#039;ve without a commitment. 
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When I sell my other TiVo I&#039;m going to run into the same thing as I pre-paid 3 years of service that is non-transferable. Again, I&#039;ll save money vs paying the full monthly fee, but it sucks to lose the money. I will offer to let the buyer use my service, but since it&#039;s non-transferable, they&#039;ll have to take my word on it. If they already have another TiVo it won&#039;t work as both TiVo have to be on the same account to MRV.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Davis,<br />
It was due to a multi-service discount, not for multi-room viewing. I paid like $600 for the Series3, so I don&#8217;t feel like it was subsidized, but I was only paying $7/mo instead of $20 because I already had another TiVo with service.<br />
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So if you add the $7/mo plus the $150, it ended up costing me $17/mo instead of $20. So my bitching and moaning aside I still paid less than I would&#8217;ve without a commitment.<br />
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When I sell my other TiVo I&#8217;m going to run into the same thing as I pre-paid 3 years of service that is non-transferable. Again, I&#8217;ll save money vs paying the full monthly fee, but it sucks to lose the money. I will offer to let the buyer use my service, but since it&#8217;s non-transferable, they&#8217;ll have to take my word on it. If they already have another TiVo it won&#8217;t work as both TiVo have to be on the same account to MRV.</p>
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		<title>By: Davis Freeberg</title>
		<link>http://bjdraw.com/2008/04/16/i-feel-like-tivo-stole-150-from-me/comment-page-1/#comment-608</link>
		<dc:creator>Davis Freeberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 02:23:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ETF fees are tacky, but they are also necessary when TiVo subsidizes the cost of the hardware.  I&#039;m not sure why MRV would trigger a termination fee, but it probably has something to do with the discount they gave on the pricing.  I hate to see you lose the $150, why not sell it to a friend for a year and see if you can get it back?  Ideally, I&#039;d like to see TiVo move away from the ETFs or at least offer a $25 - $30 monthly rental plan as an option.  I think that there are plenty of consumers who wouldn&#039;t mind paying TiVo more each month, if it meant that they didn&#039;t have to spend any money up front and they still had the flexibility to quit at any time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ETF fees are tacky, but they are also necessary when TiVo subsidizes the cost of the hardware.  I&#8217;m not sure why MRV would trigger a termination fee, but it probably has something to do with the discount they gave on the pricing.  I hate to see you lose the $150, why not sell it to a friend for a year and see if you can get it back?  Ideally, I&#8217;d like to see TiVo move away from the ETFs or at least offer a $25 &#8211; $30 monthly rental plan as an option.  I think that there are plenty of consumers who wouldn&#8217;t mind paying TiVo more each month, if it meant that they didn&#8217;t have to spend any money up front and they still had the flexibility to quit at any time.</p>
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